2005
E-Mail Extras
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Hey, wanna have some fun this CHRISTMAS?
Send the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD! As they are working so very hard to get rid of the CHRISTMAS part of this holiday, we should all send them a nice, CHRISTIAN, card to brighten up their dark, sad little world.
Here's the Address, just don't be rude or crude.
(It's not the Christian Way, ya know?)
ACLU
125 Broad Street
18th Floor
New York, NY 10004
Two tons of Christmas cards would freeze their operations because they wouldn't know if any were regular mail containing contributions.
So spend 37 cents and tell the ACLU (_American Civil Liberties
Union http://www.aclu.com/) to leave Christmas
alone.
Pass this along to your friends and have a
Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jack
Don't know the details, but just heard that Jack Donnelly passed away. Perhaps some West Coast members might have more information.
Mike Bommarito Mikeandkathy84@aol.com
Please E-Mail any information to Jack Dickinson spoacdc1@aol.com
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I'm writing this for my grandfather Clint Slye who worked for GM in the
AC division out of Chicago and has asked me to try to find three old
buddies of his. When I run searches of their names your site comes up
but I can't find them directly on your site. If possible could you
please give them my contact info if you have any of the three or
whatever they feel comfortable with. Their names are Robert Olive, John
Mustaugh, and Larry Huddy and they all worked in the same division as
Clint. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
Charles C. Petty
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I hear rumors that after 2006 G.M. will not pay for
dental or optical for retirees. Can you verify this
or put this to rest? Why won't G.M. let it's retirees
know anything about that is going on? We are terribly
confused!!! We hear things and have NO idea if it
pertains to us or not. Local 651 Flint Mi.
Sally Minzey
E-Mail: NPR (PBS) Overthehillcarpeople.com Interview
Any exposure is better than none - we must maintain being a voice.Our club objective is directed to the support of NRLN ( National Retirees Legislative Network) that involves contacting our congressional reps . on Pension and Health care issues
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I was just reviewing United Health Care stock YTD. The attached chart is almost a reverse of GM's YTD chart, although GM is it largest customer. Makes one ponder is GM paying the Health Care Companies to much!!!
H. David Roy
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Subj: I'm back
Date: 11/5/2005 8:41:32 AM Central Standard Time
From: ALLEN LAMBERSON
To: spoacdc1@aol.com
HI -
Did anyone miss me?
I have been out of the E-mail business for about 6 or 8 weeks.
Linda and I have been doing a lot of traveling -- The Canadian
Rockies --
San Francisco -- The wine country -- Alabama (Linda's family reunion)
Then a Lamberson family reunion (that was local)
Anyway -- Sometime during all that my computer died. Then I spent about
two weeks trying to decide what I wanted to replace it with.
Got a new Apple but it's so fancy I'll never learn how to use it.
Also -- I lost everything, my address file, -- favorites file --
my E-mall address file -- EVERYTHING --
So, if you have sent me anything that was earth-shaking I didn't get it.
If you ask me a question, sorry that i didn't answer it -- I didn't
get it.
But -- I'm back in business now (at least I think i am) HOPE YOU GET
THIS.
C. Allen
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The NEW health options are about as clear as the IRS code. Most retirees I have talked to are confused--and not happy. My ex Sec tried for over an hour to get answers to no avail.
Dick
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Hello Joanne,
Hopefully, this will be a good web site link to start from. If not, please let me know and we continue to research your needs. You will be required to establish a USERNAME & PASSWORD.
https://www.gmfamilyfirst.com/ip-gmemployee/displaySignOff.do?signOffInProcess=true
http://www.gm.com/retirees/products.html
Regards,
Jack
Dickinson
spoacdc1@aol.com
http://www.overthehillcarpeople.com/
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Subj: Home Page
Date:
10/26/2005 2:18:30 PM Central Daylight Time
From: Joanne Hare
To:
SPOACDC1@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Hi,
I'm on a year's leave of absence from GM - then into retirement in April, 2006. I was wondering if you know how to get the various discounts that are available to GM employees thru Socrates? Since we don't have access to Socrates - I can't seem to find any way of getting discounts for products like Dell, Direct TV, AOL, etc. - all I can find is for auto deals. Any ideas??
Thanks
Joanne Hare
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Jack,
I am posting this to the website. Please continue to send me good stuff like this so I can post them and get the word out.
Roger
Simmermaker, Author
How Americans Can Buy American
http://www.howtobuyamerican.com/
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From:
SPOACDC1@aol.com [mailto:SPOACDC1@aol.com]
Sent:
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:16 PM
To:
buyamerican@howtobuyamerican.com
Subject: This
is what's ahead for all Americans!
This is what's ahead for all Americans! Thanks to all that buy from those Foreign OWNED vehicle companies. The American economy is next.
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-----Original Message-----
From: SPOACDC1@aol.com [mailto:SPOACDC1@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:26 PM
To: allyn5157@earthlink.net
Cc: CALLENLAMBERSON@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Lamberson Slides
Hey Al,I'm not trying to hurry you. I was just following up since we had not communicated for a while. What a difference in the two pictures!!! If this has become more of a task than you thought just let me know and we can stop where you are now. I will certainly understand.Al, your efforts are appreciated!Regards,Jack Dickinson
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No inconvenience, just sent that as a heads up FYI. I just logged in so that is working for me now, so looks like your techs whipped the problem.
Was in Colorado Springs week before last and then in Hershey, PA last week for the biggest antique/classic car show and swap meet in the world. It's attended by 350-400K people from all over the world. You can't imagine until you've been there. It's set up around the Hershey factory with2500 + vendors that when you've walked all rows you've covered about 34 miles. We've been going for 20 years, and I'm sure that the same rust has been seen before. Off to West Virginia this weekend for Bridge Day at my home town. It's the longest, highest, single arch bridge in the world Almost 900 ft. to the water and there will be 400+ Base Jumpers who come from all over to jump. Since 9/11 they completely close all four lanes of traffic for the visitors to walk and observe and the jumpers. Discovery Channel, CNN, and other major TV networks cover it. Usually 150 - 200K visitors attend during the 8 hours that there is activity.
Anyway, didn't mean to ramble, just wanted to say Hi and I'll call you soon so we can chat.
Regards,
Alex Gray
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To:
spoacdc1@aol.com
From:Alex Gray
Sent: 10/13/2005 12:11:32 PM
Subject: Overthehillcarpeople.com Fwd:
What's Happening?
Hello Alex,
We are having a problem with our Server! You may not be able to LOGIN, use the Discussion Bulletin Board or Survey Question. We have our "Tech's" working on the problem and hope to have it corrected later today.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Regards,
Jack
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Hello out there,
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We milked cows for 25 years and my husband worked 3 years for TRW making car parts but I wrote a letter many years ago that was read out loud at a GM managers meeting about keeping the V8 motor plant in USA. We do not go to WAl-Mart and we buy American. I even bought a used lamp as all new ones made in China. Our boys are union construction workers. We have MADE IN AMERICA Christmas. I love your site. I hate the way George and rest of politicians are running our country. Maybe our Feingold would do better but he could never win as big business does not owe him. Are the only jobs in USA for our young people going to be fighting George's wars? We are 67 but we worry about next generations.
Sincerely Audrian McCabe
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A Fidelity representative recently made a presentation at our (Delphi) location about the Fidelity investing and retirement programs. He said that the average person now lives to be pretty old, I think that he said around 80 or 85. However, he said that the average GM retiree lives only 26 months after retiring. I asked him how this could be, but he didn't know. Any ideas?
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SPOACDC1: For the same reason that the Michael Jackson Trial gets headlines and first run stories on the TV......"follow the money trail".
I was
9 when
the
Japanese
bombed
Pearl
Harbor
and the
stories
that
came out
of the
Pacific
for the
next 4
years
were
horrific.
How
short
are the
memories
for all
the
people,
who are
old
enough
to
remember,
that
purchase
these
Japanese
vehicles?
(Regardless
where
the
vehicle
is made)
It
amazes
me all
the
time!
These
must be
the same
people
who wear
baseball
caps
when
going
into all
public
buildings
and
can't
seem to
get them
off when
they
play the
National
Anthem
in these
same
public
places.
I guess
we
should
feel
pleased
that
they do
stand
up.
J.K.Heller
E-Mail: GM Pricing To All?
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Dear editor for overthehillcarpeople.com,
I have a link-suggestion for the following webpage:
http://www.overthehillcarpeople.com/AutomotiveLinks.htm
I think you might be interested in checking out
http://www.corvette-europe.com
Thank you for your interest in advance.
Friendly Regards,
Dick Bakker
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Greetings:
Good to see your web site for GM 'old fart' retirees. It is both refreshing
& uplifting.
Thought you might be interested in a recent article that I wrote & was
published in the Kalamazoo Gazette.
The underlined & bolded portion was deleted by the paper when published for
obvious reasons, no doubt due
to our governor's attempt to lure Toyota into Michigan.
You may feel free to use this article as you deem appropriate. Please
keep up our good work.
I am salaried retiree from the closed GM plant in Kalamazoo.
Best Regards - Jack A. Smith
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My current car (1995 Chevy Cavalier) has 338,000 miles on it
To:
buyamerican@howtobuyamerican.com
Subject: Re: Buy American Mention
of the Week, 5-7-05
Roger,
I have been a proud owner of GM products since the 1970's. I will continue to support GM until they go belly-up or I do, which ever comes first.
My current car (1995 Chevy Cavalier) has 338,000 miles on it and it is still going strong. I actually had a 1986 Chevy pick-up that I drove as a work truck on a daily basis under extreme conditions and environment that was running fine when I sold it to my nephew with
260,000 miles on it. I did a commercial for Chevrolet based on the true story of this truck.
I have forwarded your message to several of my import-driving-latte-drinking-republican-voting-Walmart-shopping friends.
Thanks for the service you provide!
In solidarity,
M. A. Mason
Morrisville, Vermont
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Dear Over the Hill Car People,
I have a link suggestion for the following page of your site:
http://www.overthehillcarpeople.com/AutomotiveLinks.htm. Could you take a
look at
http://www.cadillaceurope.com ?
Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Marc de Groot
Cadillac Europe
http://www.cadillaceurope.com
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In light of on going and recent developments... Thank you for your words
of
encouragement to Really look at the "early out" that I took "way back" in
01....
We are doin' fine and busy...
John Owens
E-Mail: Mason Harris, American Believer.
Great page!
I have glanced over the site two or three times but this is the first time
I've really explored it thoroughly. I was excited to learn of the attention
it has gotten recently and decided to give it a good look.
Your piece in senior moments about the important things that most of us
younger folks (I am freshly 26) seem to have forgotten really touched me and
renewed my vigor. Your views seem to remind me a lot of my grandparents (my
grandmother on my father's side is still alive at 91 years old and works in
the yard every day for at least 3-6 hours, not counting laundry and cooking.
She is a fine example of work ethics to us all!). She's not proud at all,
probably the most humble, loving, and motherly person I've ever known--the
kind of lady that makes you feel bad about all the shortcomings in your own
life just being around her. She has a glow about her that makes you want to
be a better person just from her simple company and conversation.
Sometimes when the world is getting me down, it only takes a few words from
her to make me realize that everything will be fine if I keep my faith. She
always seems to have the simplest and wisest solutions to every problem,
though we rarely listen. Sadly, I believe that these kinds of people are an
endangered species in this world and will no doubt soon be extinct, but it's
nice to be reminded that they existed one time, if nothing else but to
remind us that we have a choice to be better than the sum of our parts.
I, for one, will never forget "The Greatest Generation"
Thanks for the boost,
Mason Harris, American Believer.
Subject: IS THIS FOR REAL?
Date: 4/18/2005 5:15:28 PM Central Daylight Time
From: wano1@comcast.netTo: 
Spoacdc1@aol.com
WOW
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Hello Jack,
This is a super website, Joe and I greatly appreciate your help. Most of our retirees have computer or access to them. This a great and easy way to send out the word.
Thanks a million, Don Frisby GM Lordstown Salary Retirees Club
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We have just come across your Web-site, I think It's great!! I wish to
promote It on my Web-site and get more exposure for Retirees of the
Auto-industry.
Ron Schuman Jr.
Ron@GmGypsy.com
Arlington,Texas General Motors
http://www.GmGypsy.com/
E-Mail: GM discount can be shared with friends, neighbors and extended family members
Just as a reminder, the
GM in the Driveway program is still in progress
for the rest of the 2005 calendar year.
This is where an active employee of GM can get a
purchase or lease discount authorization number for people who otherwise
may not consider buying a new GM vehicle. This discount can be shared with
friends, neighbors and extended family members who are shopping the
competition.
If anyone does not have contact with a current GM employee that can get an
authorization number they can contact me at my work email location
don.thomsen@gm.com and I will get them
in contact with someone. All they
need is the buyers name, City and State, Birthday, model they are
purchasing and the last 4 digits of their Social Security number.
The
good thing is this discount is in addition to most consumer incentives
already in effect and there are few exclusions.
This is something both retired and active employees can do to help
motivate the sales of our cars.
Don Thomsen
don.thomsen@gm.com
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My godfather, a retired GM employee, has recently passed away. He had
been living in Italy for the past 16 years and his wife has phoned me to
find out what is needed from her to be sent to the company and to find
out what will happen with his pension benefit. Can someone help provide
me with a name and number or department that I need to contact?
Thank you,
Joe Rossi
Trenton, NJ 08619
E-Mail From:
Shanghai, China
He sent me an email, heard about your group from other guys working
there on assignment, that have already retired, but back there doing
consulting for car design and interior trim designs. The Buick plant is
building some nice cars there, and lots of Buick's on the road over there.
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Kathy and Jack,
I have tried to find your addresses and cannot. As soon as you forward me your mailing address, I will get a signed copy of “How Americans Can Buy American” to you both.
Thanks for all,
Roger Simmermaker, Author
How Americans Can Buy American
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When I saw this, it made me think of my time in the automotive industry and what should have and could have been……………….
Of course it applies to many other segments of life as well.
Click Here: Lessons from the Geese
Norm Parker
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No access to "high speed" or cable connections... but the keys work!
Jack,
Am one of the guys with an "antique" computer and am stuck in the "back woods"
with no access to "high speed" or cable connections... but the keys work and so
do I...so you will be hearing from me and I applaud you for your great
sense of "People" .
Perhaps if we get enough of us "Spent Shells" together, we can muster
enough "Brass" to fix what is broken in GM....
...or at least save our benny's!
: )
Thanks for responding.....
Bill Walters
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Saw the Free Press article and was anxious to sign up. Check went in the mail today.
John Enot, Retired GM Truck Group
Hi Jack,
I spoke with Ed from Detroit News this morning. It was fun. Thanks for
recommending me and giving me my 15 minutes of fame.
Ciao,
Carmen
Dear Jack.
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H
i Jack,
Did you get my check already?
Anyway, my next newsletter already has the article that one of my Syracuse GM people in Michigan saw and said, hey', they are doing what you've been doing for the past 10 years.. and told me to read the article..
Since our plant is closed... we don't have a personnel department.. and being in management, we don't have a union rep.. so I know your site will be most helpful to my Syracuse GM family..
Carol McNeil
Syracuse GM, Greetings from Skaneateles
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Hi Alex,
Thanks for your thoughts on the Medical Coverage Information. You are correct in joining the Over The Hill Car People Group. My check is in the mail. There is safety in numbers.
Best Regards Leon
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I found out about your site from a fellow retiree, I was hoping someone would set one up!!
I think the reason GM isn't promoting this is that they don't want the retirees to have an independent way to communicate information. They don't want us to "organize" to protect ourselves.
Thanks, and I'll be visiting often.
Randy McClure
E-Mail From: Alex Leslie - GM Health Insurance Dropped!?
I know you all saw that Delphi dropped med. coverage for all of their non union retirees. I see this coming very fast for all of us. Those salary forms we all signed during the 80s and the "early out" paper work gave G.M. the right to make that kind of change. Changes held up in the first law suit filed by thousands a few years back, but they didn't take it to the next level of courts. The first level just covered the paper work.
We all were hired with the "Confirmed Promise" by all of management of FREE everything if we made it through 30 years of active service. I recall telling (selling) that to a lot of people I hired, as most of you do. It is late but we need to get ready to file another suit to slow down or stop this happening to us. I just joined the Overthehillcarpeople.com group and that is a good place to gather up additional support.
Let me hear what you think! Plus send this on to any others that you have an E mail address, if you think it should be passed on.
Alex
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Greetings,
If you are not already familiar with The National Retiree Legislative Network, you may want to check out the web site and place a link on your web site. The purpose is to get legislation passed to stop corporations from reducing and eliminating health care benefits to “salaried retirees”. The site is http://www.nrln.org/
Steve Whetstone
GM Salaried Retiree
Hudson Florida
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Your question on Fidelity hit home with me! (1) My first pension statement from them had an erroneous deduction of over $350, which I STILL have not gotten back, (2) This month, I was DOUBLE BILLED for ALL of my Health Care Deductions.
The second set of deductions were noted as "Adjustment(s)". I was told that there apparently were many of these that "no one can explain why it happened", (3), I have started to get notices from my health care providers that they have been declined payment for anything billed after January 1, 2005.
I was told by Fidelity that they are not sure what happened there either, but they would correct it for me and let me know when it is corrected. I'm still waiting for an answer. I can say that in the last 2 months I have spent 50 HOURS on the phone (mostly on hold) and have been shuffled from one "associate" to another and one "Supervisor" to another.
No one seems to follow through or know how to correct the problem. Has anyone else reported problems similar to mine?
RLASTOWKA@aol.com
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Hello,
I was interested to read the article about you in Detroit Free Press. I am a Buick dealer in Pinellas Park, FL. (Tampa Bay) Many of our customers are GMS buyers. We have a flagship Buick dealership, one of only six in the nation, and we provide a community room to organizations for their use.
I would like to sponsor a club in this area, or if one exists here, they can use my community room for their meetings. It will seat 100 people. Contact me if there is any interest.
Thank you,
Al Leo, President lioniiii@tampabay.rr.com
Scott Buick
Scott Saab of Tampa Bay
Scott Saab of Tampa
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Jack,
I read the article in the Free Press, Monday February 28th. Since I run a similar operation, in the aviation industry, it was refreshing to know there are other organizations doing the same. We in aviation moved many times during our careers, so our organization has the same principle, keeping us together in retirement.
I went through your web site and you have a very active site. It looks great, and reads very well. Congratulations.
If you have a moment, our web address is http://www.airwaypioneers.com/ Take a look around.
Keep up the good work, I imagine your salary for your efforts is the same as mine. Zero. It's a labor of love and a good feeling communicating with the members.
Regards,
Jim Holtsclaw
22171 Pondview
Novi, MI 48375
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Thanks Jack for the quick response to my application. Keep up the good work.
Rick Robinson
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Jack,
Thank you for your warm welcome to the group. I'm looking forward to a long relationship
John Eiden
E-Mail:
Thanks for your help. I have already gotten one response.
Julie Long julie.l.long@gm.com
Information Research
econtent.gm.com
Design Center Library
480-113-S17
30100 Mound Rd.
Warren, MI 48090
586.986.4675 (phone)
586.986.4671 (fax)
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Thank you for the very prompt response to my membership form. I have already passed information
regarding web site to a host of retires from SPO, Martinsburg, WV.
Harry Mundy
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Thanks for the mouse pad. It's a neat design and I really needed a new one.
Keep up the good work.
Frank f_roznowski@hotmail.com
Hey, Jack!
Couldn't resist sharing my take on "Senior Moments". I refuse to admit being old enough to have a "senior moment" ... I call mine an "Intellectual Overload!" Smile! Think about it!
Just logged on and haven't had a chance to thoroughly review your site; but I'll bet it will become a favorite of GM Retirees! It appears to be user-friendly!
Haven't mentioned it to Gene yet, but we'll probably join.
Blessings, Joy (Mrs. Gene Turpin - GM Baltimore)
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Hello again,
Our next visit to Alabama will be around Easter for a couple of weeks. We expect to be in McCalla on March 20th. We know only one other GM couple in the area and we have already sent them your information. Our registration is in the mail. Hopefully, we will see you later this month.
Cal & Sam Eureka0809@aol.com
E-Mail: Re: Detroit Free Press Article
Great Press Jack. Keep up the good work.
Jim Hoggard